El Paso, Texas, judge testifies at border subcommittee hearing

El Paso, Texas, County Judge Veronica Escobar, talks to Customs and Border Protection officials Mark Borkowski, left, and Kevin McAleenan, before they testified about border and immigration issues on Capitol Hill on Wednesday. SHFWire photo by Jasmine Aguilera

WASHINGTON – El Paso County Judge Veronica Escobar told a House subcommittee Wednesday that undocumented immigrants should get legal status without so much debate over whether U.S. borders are secure.

Her opinion runs counter to what most Republicans and many Democrats have been saying in the debate over immigration reform.

Escobar was invited to testify by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, the senior Democrat on the Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security, because of Escobar’s outspoken push for immigration reform.

The subcommittee also heard from three witnesses from the Department of Homeland Security. The purpose of the hearing was to understand how border security should be measured.

Escobar said she is concerned about plans that put border security ahead of legalizing undocumented immigrants.

“If we deal with those people who can be addressed through policy changes – through reform – it will … declutter the environment for law enforcement,” she said.

Escobar said officials from El Paso and Customs and Border Protection need to be more transparent and share more data so local law enforcement officials can help in the process

CBP witnesses said they would release data about ports of entry within six to seven months, including staffing and traffic flow.

Rep. Lou Barletta, R-Pa., said he is concerned about the number of undocumented immigrants who have overstayed visas and and have taken jobs from U.S. citizens. Barletta argued with Escobar about the economic implications of legalizing 11 million undocumented immigrants.

Escobar said she will find reports to submit to the committee that will prove that legalizing undocumented immigrants will have positive economic results.

Barletta cited the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and said one of the attackers, Mahmoud Abouhalima, was granted amnesty in during 1986 immigration reform.

“You make the argument that most migrant workers pose no threat, but one of these agricultural workers was actually an Islamist terrorist perpetrating one of the deadliest attacks in American history,” Barletta said. “If you can prevent just one terrorist from being granted legal status, wouldn’t you agree that it is worth the wait?”

Rep. Beto O’Rourke, D-Texas, said after the hearing that he thought Escobar handled Barletta’s questioning admirably.

Escobar said she felt the hearing went well. She said she received positive feedback from almost every committee member and the agency witnesses.

This was the first House or Senate hearing she has attended in two years. She said she chose to attend this hearing because of its relevance to immigration reform.

“I’m cautiously optimistic,” she said. “There needs to be more than just hearings, or even having your congressman as a committee member push for it. This needs to be a continued effort and our county and city has to be a constant drum beat until we get this immigration reform passed.”

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Editor’s note: This story was previously published on Scripps Howard Foundation Wire.

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  • Roberto Perezdiaz
    Roberto Perezdiaz says:

    Good for Judge Escobar taking some “common sense” to Washington. Many politicians are covering their anti-Latino prejudice by holding immigration reform hostage to a so-called border security first issue. When the most simple measure years ago would have been a simple revenue raising “Work Permit” renewable yearly allowing foreign workers to come, work, leave, and return without harassment not a single politician ever proposed such a simple straight forward idea. Why? Maybe because undocumented workers lured by necessity and cash paying jobs were defenseless against exploitation and preferred by labor intensive industry such as construction where they are paid in cash and avoid paying taxes. A legal worker would not put up with such abuse and could legally lodge a complaint or leave to find a more favorable working environment. No border will be 100% secure any place on this Earth. Indeed, a work permit plan, would declutter the issue for law enforcement. Besides, improved working conditions for foreign workers would gradually force improvement for workers in Mexico. The fact that a worker could easily, without fear, return to his family in Mexico would result in fewer if any choosing to stay in the US. Improved working conditions in Mexico would result in fewer Mexican worker coming to the US. Undocumented workers are forced to stay here for fear of being caught and criminalized. The short sited policies of the past have been indirectly responsible for a long-range benefit. Those legally born children of all those illegal workers are now voting and remember well the mistreatment their parents suffered and they have changed the national political landscape. The longer the politicians drag their feet on legalizing these undocumented workers the more citizens they are creating by forcing them to remain in the country undercover. Under covers are where future voting citizens are created.

  • Roberto Perezdiaz
    Roberto Perezdiaz says:

    Sorry I was short sighted when short “sited” slipped through.

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